Sunday, April 4, 2010

Obama answers a woman who claims to be overtaxed for Healthcare


by Anne E. Kornblut (source youtube)

CHARLOTTE - Even by President Obama's loquacious standards, an answer he gave here on health care Friday was a doozy.

Toward the end of a question-and-answer session with workers at an advanced battery technology manufacturer, a woman named Doris stood to ask the president whether it was a "wise decision to add more taxes to us with the health care" package.

"We are over-taxed as it is," Doris said bluntly.

Obama started out feisty. "Well, let's talk about that, because this is an area where there's been just a whole lot of misinformation, and I'm going to have to work hard over the next several months to clean up a lot of the misapprehensions that people have," the president said.

He then spent the next 17 minutes and 12 seconds lulling the crowd into a daze. His discursive answer - more than 2,500 words long -- wandered from topic to topic, including commentary on the deficit, pay-as-you-go rules passed by Congress, Congressional Budget Office reports on Medicare waste, COBRA coverage, the Recovery Act and Federal Medical Assistance Percentages (he referred to this last item by its inside-the-Beltway name, "F-Map"). He talked about the notion of eliminating foreign aid (not worth it, he said). He invoked Warren Buffett, earmarks and the payroll tax that funds Medicare (referring to it, in fluent Washington lingo, as "FICA").

Always fond of lists, Obama ticked off his approach to health care -- twice. "Number one is that we are the only -- we have been, up until last week, the only advanced country that allows 50 million of its citizens to not have any health insurance," he said.

A few minutes later he got to the next point, which seemed awfully similar to the first. "Number two, you don't know who might end up being in that situation," he said, then carried on explaining further still.

"Point number three is that the way insurance companies have been operating, even if you've got health insurance you don't always know what you got, because what has been increasingly the practice is that if you're not lucky enough to work for a big company that is a big pool, that essentially is almost a self-insurer, then what's happening is, is you're going out on the marketplace, you may be buying insurance, you think you're covered, but then when you get sick they decide to drop the insurance right when you need it," Obama continued, winding on with the answer.

Halfway through, an audience member on the riser yawned.

But Obama wasn't finished. He had a "final point," before starting again with another list -- of three points.

"What we said is, number one, we'll have the basic principle that everybody gets coverage," he said, before launching into the next two points, for a grand total of seven.

His wandering approach might not matter if Obama weren't being billed as the chief salesman of the health-care overhaul. Public opinion on the bill remains divided, and Democratic officials are planning to send Obama into the country to persuade wary citizens that it will work for them in the long run.

It was not evident that he changed any minds at Friday's event. The audience sat politely, but people in the back of the room began to wander off.

Even Obama seemed to recognize that he had gone on too long. He apologized -- in keeping with the spirit of the moment, not once, but twice. "Boy, that was a long answer. I'm sorry," he said, drawing nervous laughter that sounded somewhat like relief as he wrapped up.

But, he said: "I hope I answered your question

1 comment:

  1. so he spent 17 minutes NOT answering the question that was asked of him, he said I need to put spin on this and it is going to take a few months. Followed by a list of reasons while she will like it when his tax hikes cause her company go out of business (OK not in those words). Have you ever watched one of his speeches, I am sure he spent more that 17 minutes thanking people whose name he pretends to know, on the good work on some job they probably don't have in his cabinet. thanking the FBI guy who walked him from the car to the door. Thanked the person who handed him the mic (whose name he will also not know, but make one up on the spot for them). You know at the Oscars if you run over in you acceptance speech they go ahead and cut to commercial. What to say, get this man a teleprompter so he can get to the point (not the same one 7 different ways). Mr President, just lie to the woman and say "Yes, it would be irresponsible not not to add health care at this time in our country. And we are going to do everything we can to either makes sure your personal taxes stay as low as possible." Heck, that is one people would want to believe. Half truths don't seem to be working, people check facts. Try half lies, that way when you get called on it you can just say they misunderstood what you really meant, the true parts abut the lie, not the lies hidden in your false truths.



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